Financial history doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes. You can't be stupid enough to trade off anything I say.... I'm lucky they let me out of the straight-jacket long enough to trade.

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"Sell down to your sleeping point"

Thursday, September 18, 2008

the size of these moves

I was just looking at a chart, and I was like, I need to cover at "that point in the chart" and just realize that was 5% lower than it's current value.... The stock was there 5 minutes ago.

16 comments:

Tony said...

Maybe I'm thinking about this wrong, but this ban on short sales seems to play into the hands of SKF.

This is a huge basket of short positions that will be in very high demand once traders realize that they need to hedge their positions.

The CDS issue still is not resolved, the structural problems are not fixed.

SKF will hit $95 or more by day's end or at opening on Monday. Am I wrong in my premise?

Eric said...

at this moment, all you can do is sell the skf, you can't buy it.

so many realy interesting things going on.

Tony said...

At 12:08 ET I bought some at 92.56. It's sitting in my account as a holding (underwater, but there.)

Eric said...

Hmm... last I knew that was how it was..

I'd still say that wallstreet doesn't want to play. and will wait till october.

I'm still trying to sort all this out.

The difference on a supply and demand.... is that at one point you will run out of buyers. and have more natural sellers, and not short sellers.

If "Markets work" the only difference should be that "price discovery" should take longer.

Eric said...

I heard a story once about how without short selling

The big investors, just used to just suddenly buy the market to push things back up to their liking.

I'm not sure that would work...

How would you sell...

I imagine there are some historical perspectives.

Tony said...

Maybe TDAmeritrade matches buyers of SKF with in-house sellers? I'm speculating.

Natural sellers will come in to take profits after two up days. This should reduce XLF share price from current levels and thereby increase SKF value. No?

I'm interested in hedging my gains and go golfing. I can't figure out waht's going on.

Santelli's opinion: It's a political move and Paulson is trying to trump Congress before the weekend. If Congress doesn't play, Bush can blame them for any drop next week.

Tony said...

Just got some SDS, too!

Eric said...

It's possible all the "hand wringing" is just sour grapes, from missing the move.....

but that is the nature of it, If it was easy to catch bottoms, everyone would do it...

I'm totaly flummixed too. but I say we run till monday.
This has been a super hard week.

Tony said...

SKF sold at 95!

Eric said...

It may base again here, and move higher again... Good eyes

Tony said...

I'm not sure I can buy any more now even if I wanted to.

Tony said...

I might have to play with sds

Tony said...

CD rates are high... will this hurt regional banks? Now they will have to pay higher interest rates on savings accts.

Eric said...

how did you do?

Tony said...

Did okay, but SKF went to 100 and I sold too soon. Story of my trading life. i don't like putting trailing stops on SKF because it trades so thinly that I'm afraid of getting burned, although I never have.

Eric said...

No kidding, you have to use mental stops...and stick to them...

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